Vegas Afterthoughts

October 4th, 2017 Posted by Susan's Musings 64 comments

This week’s carnage in Vegas was shocking and horrifying. I put aside my previously written Musing because it seemed wrong to write about anything other than what had happened. But, I didn’t think I had anything unique to say that would be of value to most of the people who read what I write. Then, I was browsing one of the liberal-leaning sites I like to visit and saw that the equally shocked and horrified women there mostly saw what happened in Las Vegas as a reason to double down on calls for gun control. I decided to step outside of my comfort zone and leave a comment on that forum. Here is what I wrote:

It is never comfortable expressing a view in a forum in which yours is a minority opinion. Let me lay it on the table: I am an NRA member and have been for years. I am also a mother of seven and grandmother of many more. I consider myself, and think others would consider me, a loving, kind and giving person.

I did not grow up in a home with guns or where guns were discussed. In the Jewish enclave in which I grew up no one hunted. Guns belonged in cowboy movies and on signs and billboards found around the large city where I lived that said, “Use a gun, go to jail.” Those signs had no relevance to anyone I knew.

After studying both sides of the issue and after some first-hand life experience, I became a Second Amendment supporter. If I may say, very few people who agitate for gun control take the time to meet, talk to and understand those of us who are wary of it. There are corrupt politicians on both sides of the issue who see this topic as an avenue to power; there are opportunities for money on both sides of the issue. There are perverted ideologues on both sides of the issue such as the fired attorney for CBS who said that the she had no sympathy for the people who died in Las Vegas because they were probably “Republican gun-toters.”  I’m sure you can find her mirror image on the other side. But when it comes to real people, everyone shudders and mourns not only when mass shootings take place but when smaller numbers are affected. Everyone decent wants all types of carnage to stop.

The art of conversation and debate is dying in our society. There is a lot of shouting and very little listening. The bias of most media outlets is growing more propagandist and each side on many issues only sees data that has been manipulated and studies that have been picked to support its already established views. Sometimes a token “opposing view” is thrown in which is either so wishy-washy or so ridiculous that it just confirms previous biases. That isn’t healthy.

The NRA is not a “thing.” It is made up of many Americans, and increasingly women, who see gun ownership as the only way they can protect themselves and those they love from attack rape, and/or murder. They include women who have been told by police that the police cannot come in time to help them so that they need to be ready to defend themselves. One NRA magazine has a column called The Armed Citizen that gathers reports from newspapers around the country about people, male and female, old and young, handicapped and able-bodied defending themselves. These reports don’t make national news outlets.

Others who support the Second Amendment do so because of a study of history and what happened to societies that imposed gun control. Other supporters have different reasons. America is a huge country and what is true and necessary for one area is often the opposite of what is true and necessary for another region.

As I see it, based on many examples, the political debate is not about “common sense gun laws.” The political debate is about more extremist positions where any concessions of second amendment rights will become a step in the road to a very bad final stage. There is an agenda and it is different from the agenda of most Americans who want to do something that will actually be effective rather than to “just do something” or to take advantage of a crisis situation.

Real people, however, can meet in the middle. We share the bottom line, “What can we do to make things better.” The first step is acknowledging that those on the other side of the issue are good, sincere and intelligent people who might have something to teach you. This website skews towards one group of women. Other websites skew differently. Imagine how much more good we could actually achieve if we respected each other, shared our views and stopped seeing those who disagree with us as evil, warped or stupid.

I very much want to hear your comments and hope you will write. Please note, however, that our offices (and store) will be closed from sunset Wednesday night PT (Oct. 4) through Saturday evening, so many comments will not be approved or answered until later. 

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64 comments

Lynn Perrizo says:

You need a very nice job and I think you’re very brave to post it on a liberal website! I hope you will share what type of feedback you get from it.

Susan Lapin says:

Lynn, this is the second time I’ve done this. I’ve decided that only talking within our own circles is part of the problem right now. We need to relearn how to talk to each other.

Randy R. Werner says:

Susan, once again, you are absolutely correct in your assessment of one of the most basic problems facing our society – true conversation and thoughtful debate. You’ve inspired me to step out and take a risk. I live in Northern California where most of my friends are left and far-left leaning. Less than 24 hours had expired when many of them joined in the call for banning guns. I started to debate one person but felt that I was still in that emotional state and could not do so with rationality. I will be ready soon and your response was so very helpful.

Joyce Stoddard says:

God bless you, Mrs. Lapin! I’m a mother and grandmother, too. I’ve never been on one side or the other re: guns. Until now. I am considering buying one and being trained to use it. You encourage me.

Al Hoffman says:

Someone quite careful, who in my reollection never raised a voice, heard I had trouble with some who sought my harm. She spoke one time of the need to not set down arms if defense was required.

From long ago, she spoke,”Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.” In my situation she was meaning just to defend myself.
This was from the last century,during American wartime self-defense. It still can apply.

Al Hoffman says:

Let me add, there is no room in this for aggressive malicious injury.

Lynn Perrizo says:

Why do I always tap the post button before rereading what I wrote? 🙄 You DID a nice job, not need.

Susan Lapin says:

I read it as you meant to write it – how funny is that!

I could not agree with you more. I don’t know if he was the originator of the quote but as Steven Covey famously wrote, “Seek first to understand, then to be understood.” If more decent, intelligent, God and country loving Americans would do this rather than attacking each other THEN we could make some REAL progress. Thanks for sharing this post.

Daniel O. Maldonado says:

My Wife & I are Benefactor Members of the NRA. We even got life memberships for our kids, grand kids and great grand children. Thank you for your posts. I read your Musings and the Thought Tools and listen to Rabbi Lapin’s podcast. Thanx again for very useful information.

Daniel O. Maldonado
Bishop, TX

Loi 'Ortiz says:

I agree with you wholeheartedly. However, I would like to add a comment. I believe in the having a firearm available if meet with a situation where one’s life or family is threatened, and even then shoot to injure not to kill. Automatic weapons are a different matter completely. These weapons should not be allowed for public purchasing period. They should not be allowed to be sold in any store that sells guns. Only handguns and rifles for hunting as well as the various types of ammunition. I realize some people would disagree with even having a handgun because that could kill as well, but where do you draw the line. You should not prohibit a respectable citizen from having a weapon to defend their property, family or himself. I am sure there are countless weapons out there from when our country was young, but as the world changes, we have to change with it but never give into the evil that lurks to make us weak and submissive to those who wish to harm us. We should always be able to have to option fight and protect ourselves from people and fanatical groups that seek to harm us. If we decide to have a gun because we feel we can handle it, of course after proper training, then we should be able to have it.

Leighanne says:

I love this. I’m a Libertarian and for years I’ve alternated between total silence and trying to get my friends on both sides to stop the ridiculous fighting with no luck. I’m going to save your words because they are so powerful. Thank you.

Bonnie Rice says:

You always are so articulate and kind no matter the issue. Thank you for being a voice of wisdom for all of us. Most of America just wants this craziness to stop. Thank you.

Susan Hire says:

Susan, you are very brave to post on a liberal site. I tried it once and was banned.

Jacob Miller says:

Mrs Lapin,

A very well thought out and written response. Thank you for sharing, I hope the majority of its readers pick up on and are able to reflect that genuine empathy.

I would imagine people on both sides of most disagreements are guilty of plugging our ears and just speaking louder.

I also believe that we can speak much “louder” when we display humility, tenderness, and patience especially towards those who strongly and enthusiastically disagree with us.

Thanks again for setting a great example, and have a happy Sukkot!

Pat McCarthy says:

Excellent column!!

Susan Mallios says:

Thank you for taking such an honest approach. I am inspired to try the same thing. Perhaps we will be able to persuade both sides that screaming at one another accomplishes nothing. Please do share with us the responses you receive. I predict that they will be all over the board.

Jan says:

I believe that every able-bodied woman should have an easily accessible gun in her home and be prepared to use it.

WILLIAM J BROWER says:

Miss Susan,
The problem with Gun Control is the same one that arises from the various commandments, and laws handed down from our gracious God. Some people follow them and some do not.
Just as there are orthodox Jews, there are conservative Jews and reform Jews, and a whole passel of christians, each rite, or denomination of which has its own idea of which edict from God above to follow, and which are still law and which have fallen out of favor and notice.
Strict enforcement of the gun laws on the books should take precedence over the enactment of new, unenforceable statutes. We do not ban the pressure cooker because it was used to make a bomb. We do not call for increased regulation of panel trucks because they have been used in terror attacks. And what of knives and machetes, also used to attack innocents?
You take a courageous stand. Not only on this but on so many social issues. I salute you and you esteemed husband.
Bill Brower

Carol Dourte says:

Thanks for your courage. I too am a Jewish woman who owns a gun and who knows how to use it. Spent Yom Kippur visiting a shul in Pa. I was astounded ( but not displeased) that the Rabbi ended his KolNidre message encouraging Jews to stand up against the public lies and to consider getting a gun and learning to use it. Gun ranges in Pikesville Md are routinely filled with members of the orthodox and ultra orthodox community who live in the area. We love HaShem and love peace, but, we also value wisdom.

Charlie Newling says:

Well, stated. God bless you, Ms. Lapin.

Robert says:

I am a regular reader of both yours and the Rabbi’s comments. Thank you for your courage and clarity on the Second Amendment issues. I’m of the opinion that it’s really about the protection of ones self, not hunting, or target shooting as a sport, ask anybody hired as a bodyguard. The Las Vegas shooting is completely reprehensible and my prayers go out to the families of those killed and those who were wounded. I pray for their recovery. Without bringing up another hot button issues, the selective outrage of those on either side of this issue view other loss of human life, all be it, protected by a supreme court decision with far less distaste. Yes, Vegas was an illegal and immoral act, committed using fire arms, but the loss of life of the most vulnerable among us is also immoral and grievous . I seldom comment on issues but where is our moral compass.

Craig Curtis says:

As always a well thought out, well written, and kind and gentle presentation. Somehow that seems to inspire some of the most vicious, horrible responses and thoughtless responses. I love what you wrote and hope and pray the recipients on that website read your response multiple times before they respond. Thank you for your wisdom and insight.

Kim Godsey says:

I must admit I have done this with good intentions only to be scared into silence. A local paper had an article about the living constitution. A local college professor was supporting it. I wrote a well thought out argument against it. I mentioned that the Founders put absolute authority on the Bible and that the Constitution was meant as a standard, and not a “living document. I actually received a threatening letter at my home!
Yet my silence has not helped society. I will be very interested to hear the responses to you.

Bev Bryan says:

RESPECT, what a beautiful, biblical principle for living and relating to one another. Thank you Susan always for your timely and insightful musings.

Brett Modesti says:

I too agree that the art of conversation and the ability to disagree respectfully is being drown out by the shrill voices of extremism on both sides of almost every issue.

Those who shriek the loudest about how divided we are becoming are, by their very use of extreme messaging and vilification of those they disagree with, the very ones dividing us. They are followed close behind by voices of reason that remain silent.

Thank you for your courage and your thoughtful opinion.

Barbara A Edge says:

Hi Susan first off i just love you and your husband. I have learned so much from your shows. Thank you for posting your comments and supporting the second amendment. I dont own a gun however lately i have been giving it a lot of thought. I feel better knowing someone wise like you would support me. Love barbara edge 💕

TJ says:

Thank you so much for your thoughts. You have the ability to express what so many of us are thinking but are often afraid to say because of the backlash we know will follow. I am usually good at listening to the other side, and frequently visit sites with opposing views. I will step it up a bit, and learn to be more like you.

Jesse says:

A comfort zone is a beautiful place, but nothing ever grows there. Thank you for taking a bold stand for the Truth!

Velma says:

Excellent message! I agree wholeheartedly. I am also a mother of 7 and grandmother of many more (12)
Shalom and Chag Sameach

Paula says:

I think that what you did is good and necessary. We do need dialogue in this country, but rare is the person on the liberal side that is willing to do something other than ridicule opposing views. It’s what they do these days, perhaps because the Democratic Party seems to have been overtaken by the hard Left and they usually are out to destroy the opposition. Our country has changed and not in a good way. Still, we have to try or this is no chance for positive change.

Art says:

Well put!

Dave Allen says:

As a conservative pastor, I say “Amen.” I am not a gun owner, but dosupport the Second amendment. Personally, I would prefer to be shot rather than shooting someone else.

Adriana Mandon says:

I love it, in the same lines what did I post in FB under my married name-Adriana Ansaldi_
Totally agree, we don’t talk anymore about issues, it is all about impose an agenda and decent people fall for it (lack of critical thinking?). This agenda rips the benefits of division, as the old adagio states-Divide and Conquer-nothing new under the Sun (but people are very bad educated in history).
God bless you!

R. G. says:

The last time this topic raised its ugly head,” I used my facebook page to post one article per day for one week in support of firearm ownership. My postings seemed only to make the divide wider. I pray that yours make a difference. (One of the articles that I shared came to me through your posts: A Jew Without a Gun. Thank you for sharing it.)

celesta says:

Mrs. Lapin,
I love the fact that, for all that you know (which shines through brightly even in the simplest sentences you write), and all of your business/literary/domestic/etc. accomplishments, of which you have many, one of your character traits that comes through most piercingly is a simple, unspoiled, down-to-earth, overflowing heart of love that wants to pour out on anyone and everyone who will hear you. For all your intelligence, you never seem arrogant. You may have the brains, but when you write it first comes straight from the heart, shunted through your brain and scribed by your hand, but it is a message of love straight from your heart. And it is full of honor to God and His ways, as well as pregnant with His loving draw towards all humanity. You always do great!!!

Michael Garner says:

Thank you Mrs. Lapin for your excellent use of the First Amendment in defense of the Second Amendment.

I share your sentiments and appreciate that you have formatted them to organize my thinking on this subject. I too am a member of the NRA and read the articles therein about people who have defended themselves and others through the use of firearms.

Thank you for your time.

Don Gher says:

Thank you for your cogent post, Susan. I also look forward to the response you receive from the others on that particular website. Best to you and Daniel, Don

Michael Gries says:

Lynn & Susan: I’ve made this mistake in the past too. We all make mistakes especially when we are intensely involved with our thoughts and then don’t proofread. Although very pro NRA and 2nd amendment, I don’t trust myself with a gun, afraid that in the emotion of a situation I may “shoot first and ask questions later”, I may make a mistake; a big mistake. I appreciate those who do carry and protect us.

Tzipi Hartson says:

IF ONLY liberals wanted to engage in respectful, constructive dialog. Nice try. I look forward to hearing their responses. Chag sameach.

Craig Maxwell says:

I am very proud of you Susan. We all need to articulate well our positions. My wife has picked up trash thrown out of an automobile and chased down the driver to hand them their trash with a smile. Not all women can pull that off, or confront opposition as well as you did with your tactful article, but America needs conservative ladies to speak and act freely without being intimidated. I love you for your commitment.

Very well said! The conversations have been very one sided.
I am currently studying at the University of California, Irvine, and many of my classmates will often make comments as if they assume I have the same liberal views as them. When I voice my opinions and try to start a conversation, I am often met with mockery, ridicule, or an abrupt change of subject. Conversation and debate is non-existent here. “Debate” events consist of two far-left liberal speakers arguing over the best way to destroy straight white business men (like myself).
I’ll continue to share my beliefs, when prompted, but if this is the future workforce of America, I am deeply worried, and I don’t expect these terrible tragedies to end soon.

Carmine says:

Very well presented. We need to talk more to each other than about each other.

Edward Rubinstein says:

Susan,

You’re right that there needs to be much more of a dialogue between the two sides (of whatever the issue is). It doesn’t seem, however, that that will happen anytime soon. The structure of the media simply does not (possibly will not) allow for it. I fear that something calamitous (Las Vegas not being that something) will need to happen for us to finally listen to the other side. Even 9/11 didn’t result in us being brought together. After the first few months, it may well have exacerbated the two sides growing further and further apart.

That being said, I agree that you were brave to post on a liberal site. I, too, would be interested in what comments followed, regardless of whether they are sincere or inflammatory.

I wish you and Rabbi Lapin a joyous and happy Sukkot.

PS. Before I ever heard the interview with Judy Gruen, I purchased The Rabbi and the Skeptic. I can’t wait to finish what I’m currently reading (Still the Best Hope, Dennis Prager) so that I can start it.

Brian Tucker says:

We live in a county where people have been hunting since the revolutionary war so gun ownership isn’t a real big issue. However, the anti-gun crowd seems to be made up some of the folks who think that beating up people who disagree with your view is the same as exercising you right to free speech. Shades of your recent musing about inconsistency.
Enjoy the rest of you Holliday.

Brian

Mary Gaines says:

I am also a life member of the NRA, an older woman who lives alone and has several pistols and a 12 guage shotgun. I am also a Criminal Defense Attorney. The NRA has for years based its position on “hunters rights”, not personal protection, and not protection from our government (which is what I think the framers had in mind based on their experience with the British). Given that our government now is highly militarized (and fast tracking to increase its fire power into local communities), the excessive use of SWAT Teams (over 50,000 times per year), and the Patriot Act’s erosion of civil liberties, good luck with any weapons you might have. Hunter trainers teach only to shoot at the animal if you can kill it (do not just wound it). My take is this: if you can’t kill Bambi in 6 shots you shouldn’t have more. I
Given the human carnage that goes on in this country, with killings of 4 or more people in one incident occurring over 300 times per year, we should really talk about what will save the most lives. All of us carrying assault weapons to church (Carolina AME) or to concert venues or to rallys like Charlottesville, Boston, or Berkely. My view, we should outlaw all assault weapons with a 30 day window to turn them in (like we have in California), and limit magazines and pistol chambers to 6 rounds. Gun manufacturers already have the technology to do this. Our best hope is to limit the number of shots these people can get off in a short period of time.
FYI – Did you know the House of Reps had a bill pending to allow silencers for all weapons to be sold to the public. Who, not in law enforcement, would need such a thing? Only a Murderer. Personally, if I hear a noise outside, I want that guy to HEAR me pump my shotgun and decide to bypass my home. Having been in a nightclub when someone was shot, I can tell you, as we heard in the videos of Vegas, you hear the background “pop” sound (not a loud BANG), and it takes a few seconds to register what is happening

An excellent and well thought-out post. I hope that people on all sides of this difficult (and flash-point) issue read it, and think about what you have to say, rather than reacting reflexively. Thanks for posting it.

David says:

They keep calling this guy a shooter!!! That insults me because I am a shooter (hobby) and I don’t want to be associated with that &%#$**&^ MURDERER. It is as if I took my golf club out of my bag and killed someone by beating them to death with my club. Am I a murderer or a golfer? I just happened to use a golf club to do the dirty deed! This guy is a MURDERER not a shooter. He just happened to use a rifle instead of a bomb or truck etc…

Doc

Deborah says:

I find it tragic that there’s not more discussion regarding the evil people who are carrying out these terrible acts of violence. No one seems to look at these deranged individuals and truthfully ask themselves if this person would have found another way to murder people if they could not get a gun. The answer is, “Of course they would.” Just look at the recent attacks carried out using trucks and cars. Each time another tragedy happens involving firearms all you hear is “we need new laws.” And, yet the new laws don’t seem to make any difference. Why? Because it is not about guns. We have a very broken society that fosters hatred, immorality, a “poor me syndrome” laziness, drugs . . . I could go on and on. And, the sad thing is that I’m afraid we may be broken beyond repair and these tragedies will keep happening. I hope not.

Linda Baker says:

Susan,
What a sincere and heartfelt letter. I hope there are those who will continue to read past the “NRA” and will actually hear your plea for dialogue.
I also look forward to hearing about the responses you get.

Andrew says:

I keep thinking of a Thomas Sowell quote: “For every expert there is an equal and opposite expert, but for every fact there is not necessarily an equal and opposite fact.”
I agree that media outlets are far too unbalanced and to be honest it’s rare for me to even post on any social media place these days because I’m done trying to reason with unreasonable people. Reading your blog helps me push myself to be a bit more visible, especially with the current survey to redefine the Marriage act in Australia. Australian gun laws are another issue of course (they’re banned here), but I’m still not convinced the way we did that was the totally correct thing to do. Of course they get misused (but so do kitchen knives). I know it’s not exactly the same, but it is definitely time people got beyond arguments that solely consist of sound bites.

Jim Daire says:

Dear Susan,
I am a 77-year-old white Christian male, an NRA and USCCA (US Concealed Carry Association) member and a 2nd Amendment supporter. I have followed Rabbi Lapin and you for years. I applaud your courage in posting to the gun-control blog. You expressed yourself gently, eloquently and persuasively. You also expressed my feelings on the subject. I carry because – much as I hate to say it – the world out there has become a dangerous and unpredictable environment. The thought of having to defend myself or someone I love gives me the shudders, but sometimes being armed and trained to respond is what it takes to avoid becoming a statistic.
Thank you.
Jim

Mark says:

Susan—Your reader comment has to be one of the best ever written on the subject. I wonder what kind of replies it got on that website.

I read it as she meant it, as well – that really *is* funny!

It is such a shame that people concerned about violence will not talk about the unsolvable problem of evil, or the need to remove known-evil people from society (temporarily, if they repent, or permanently, either by lifetime incarceration or capital punishment, if they do not repent). That is too “scary,” I think, for the secular world – because evil is inherently a spiritual problem.

So instead they focus on this thing – a piece of metal tubing with springs and blocks and handles and slides etc – and refuse to see/admit that other things (claw hammers, knives, vehicles, fertilizer/fuel mixes, airplanes, bricks, rocks, fists, heavy shoelaces for goshsake) are equally deadly when the intent is evil. To say, “Let’s ignore the *thing* and talk about the *evil*” is not a conversation I have found people willing to have.

The problem is spiritual. We all need to pray for a revival of faith in the One True God of Abraham; Christian and Jew both. 2Chr7:14 calls for “My people, who are called by My Name” and that is US! Not the secularists, leftists, or pagans – but faithful Christians and Jews. It is up to US to humble OURselves, to pray, to seek His face, and to turn from OUR wicked ways. Then He will hear us and heal our land. The shoe is on MY foot – and yours, and yours, and yours. How about for every social media post, we spend an equal amount of time and effort on our knees in prayer? Sound like a plan?

Gordy Beil says:

Well said! You drove that nail home (I hope that they don’t take away our hammers, next).

Devorah says:

The real issue that needs to be addressed is that once again the shooter was known to be taking anti-depressants known to entice agitation and violence. That has been the real culprit in nearly all of these senseless mass shootings. When will we begin to tackle the real issue- dangerous drugs with unacceptable side effects?

Kristin Grose says:

I hope your post was considered by regulars of that site, Susan. It was succinct, thoughtful and intelligent.

Joyce Rudowske says:

Excellent post! I agree that we need to listen to each other and respect different opinions. I have to confess that I have stopped commenting on such things because it seems to digress to profanity and name calling. You have given me something to think about!

Susan Gilliland says:

You are very brave! In a closed minded world where our beliefs are defined as hate groups, very nice job!

Elaine Ralston says:

Thank you! I do not know whether I am classified as a conservative or a liberal but I agree that we absolutely need to listen to each other with respect. Keeping a mind open to understanding different perspectives, experiences, and world views is important to us at all levels of society (communities, nationally, internationally). This topic strikes emotional chords and people seem to quit thinking. I grew up in Alabama where guns were around me and hunting was a fun thing to do for many friends and family members. I married a man who enjoys target shooting and doesn’t hunt. I don’t like either hunting or target shooting but would not want to deprive either activity from those who enjoy these past times. For all individuals that handle guns, I do believe they need to have safe gun practice training. From my perspective, the problem is how to limit access of guns to criminals and people who have mental health issues. I applaud law enforcement officials that analyze these horrific events and try to minimize the likelihood of a repeat of the horror. I weep and pray for the families and communities that have lost loved ones. I pray for the wisdom to support decisions that will make the world a safer place.

Posted by Susan Lapin says:

Wow. I’m delighted at how many comments were waiting for me when I went online after the opening days of Sukkot. Please forgive me for not going back and answering each one.
I was very pleased that my comment passed moderation on the site I wrote this for. Not only did it go against the prevailing grain, but it was quite long. A number of people on the website where I wrote posted comments thanking me for expressing what they were thinking. This is so important because it helps people realize that they actually do “know” people who think differently than they do.
I also received some serious questions and a few comments that (perfectly politely) disagreed. I chose this site to post on because it is not a site that devolves into profanity, shouting and insults. I give much credit to the moderators and the women who read the site that my words were given a chance.

Mary Anne says:

Thank you, Susan! Just like at Canada College, i thank you for speaking out when so often I feel muzzled for believing differently than those around me!

Tony says:

‘ The bias of most media outlets is growing more propagandist and each side on many issues only sees data that has been manipulated and studies that have been picked to support its already established views. ‘
I think that this is the hub of the matter, papers wouldn’t be sold and television would not be watched if they simply reported the news.

Ty Steward says:

Dear Susan, I love listening and reading both you and your husband. I’m also a huge fan of Dennis Prager. I’m of the opinion that the Left can’t be reasoned with as you suggest. Instead, they must be defeated. As Mr. Prager once pointed out, courage is the rarest of virtues. Those that fight the Left, like David Horowitz, Ann Coulter, Katie Hopkins, Sean Hannity, Tom Sowell, Rush Limbaugh, etc. are the ones who reject the Rodney King, “Can’t we all just get along?” mentality and instead, regardless of the scorn, lies and vitriol directed at then, don’t compromise or accept Leftist premises. They understand there is no middle ground fighting the Left and instead, focus on the goal of defeating them. “The Rushmeister” once asked, “Where is the middle ground or compromise when it comes to killing the unborn?” as an example of why the Left must not be reasoned with, but defeated. So the posturing of condemning “both sides” is, in my never-to-be-humble-opinion, a bit cowardly and naive when it comes to dealing with the Left. Regardless, I just wanted to add my two-cents in the comment section and considering it’s been so long since you wrote your commentary you might not even read my comment. .
Kindly regards, Ty.

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